The first time Cody Simpson and Gigi Hadid broke up, they still hung out all the time, but that hasn’t been the case recently. In fact, the singer-songwriter recently opened up to Yahoo! Style about how much he really talks to his ex-girlfriend. Basically, it’s not like they keep in constant contact!

“We talk every now and then, but people grow in different ways and separate, you know? We’ll never have any animosity between us, as it should be, and I want to be supportive of her. We’re just on different paths right now,” he said.

We kind of surmised things were a little bit awkward between them after they had a weird run-in on a plane. Plus, he didn’t seem too happy when asked about her rumored new guy, Joe Jonas. But the “Flower” singer says he’s not “mov[ing] onto another celebrity girlfriend” just yet.

“When people ask, ‘How can you be friends with this person? They dated this person, didn’t you know? Oh my gosh, are you dating this person now?!’ I’m not, by the way. I’m not dating anyone. I haven’t moved onto another celebrity girlfriend.”